Saturday, August 1, 2009

Birther Madness II - BHO's birthplace revealed

Since we have the polling news that a significant portion of people who are Southerners doubt Obama was born in Hawaii, and several people have been pushing the birther claims my way, I feel obligated to make sure everyone round these parts "gets the memo" on BHO's birthplace. Debunking efforts by the MSM hasn't done its work, maybe because of mistrust in the media. Obama hasn't helped. While he released his COLB - Certificate of Live Birth - he has not gotten and shared his original birth certificate. Yet he continues to have his press guy insist the 'birth certificate' was released, a distortion that is causing charges of lying:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/28/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/

Even though Obama could and should be more forthcoming, about his birth certificate, college transcripts, etc., this lack of disclosure in no way means he is ineligible or hiding a major scandal. Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961, and claiming there is doubt on this score due to a failure to publicly see his original birth certificate is baseless.

Here's evidence to back up Obama's birth being in Honolulu:

1. When first challenged on his birthplace, Obama released his COLB - Certification of Live Birth - that people get from the State of Hawaii when they request birth records. This document has an embossed seal and stamp and is sufficient documentation for getting a passport or a drivers license. The COLB was photographed by folks at factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_6.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_4.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_1.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_7.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_8.jpg
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_9.jpg


2. Newspaper announcement of birth one week after birth, Aug 4. Two newspapers had birth announcements on Aug 13 and Aug 14th, and they were in turn gotten from State of Hawaii records office. Here's one of them:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg

3. The newspapers in turn got their data from the Health Records Office of Hawaii. What this further means is that Obama's records were put on file between Aug 4 and Aug 14, 1961.

4. Common sense: Lack of money means they were tied to the Island. Stanley Dunham and Barack Obama Sr lived, met and were students in Honolulu. That was there hometown. As students, they had little money, so the natural conclusion would be that they would have very likely had their baby in Honolulu. They had a Marriage in Feb, baby in August; honeymoon was on another Hawaiian island; if they were going to travel anywhere else, THAT would have been the time to do it.

5. State officials from Hawaii vouched for his birth records being on file and him being born in Hawaii: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai’i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai’i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008, over eight months ago.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/27/AR2009072703114.html

6. Obama obtained US passports for overseas travel. He needed valid birth certification that proved US citizenship to do so. While the above COLB is from 2007, he needed a prior one to get his passport to go to Kenya. This further validates that he has birth records AND they show his birth in the US.

7. There was a claim that his grandmother said he was born in Kenya. That report is false and based on selective editing of an interview. See:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/
“During the interview, which was conducted through a translator by a street preacher named Ron McRae, Sarah Obama does in fact say she was present. But it’s clear that there was a mistranslation, because as soon as McRae very excitedly starts to try to get additional details, the people on the other end of the line realize what’s happened and say, over and over again, that Obama was born in the U.S. “

Here is the FULL interview audio - 16 MINUTES not 5 minutes like most of the tapes that purport to show someone saying Obama was born in Kenya. A sure sign of a bogus conspiracy theory is phony manipulation like that:
http://s16v.com/americasright/8167169.wma

So we have 6 reasons Obama was born in Hawaii, and we debunked the one thin claim that tied Obama to birth elsewhere. Will it convince anyone? I don't know. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

5 comments:

web said...

How can you say he has not a real birth certificate????????

Freedom's Truth said...

"How can you say he has not a real birth certificate????????" Um, I never said that.

Actually, he DOES have a real original birth certificate, and to allay the doubts of those not convinced by the COLB that he already released, it would be good if he actually responded to those asking "Where's the birth certificate?" and released it. But I'm not holding my breath, and if and when he did release it, I'm sure it would merely confirm what is on the COLB.

Anonymous said...

At this point I'm convinced that the reason they're not releasing the real birth certificate is precisely to fan the flames and make conservatives look rabid and crazy.

A shitty thing for them to do, but it makes more sense than a grand conspiracy.

Freedom's Truth said...

"At this point I'm convinced that the reason they're not releasing the real birth certificate is precisely to fan the flames and make conservatives look rabid and crazy."

I tend to agree. If Obama needed to, he could surely get strings pulled and get the original birth cert out of files and into his hands. And surely he could also wave the physical COLB around. SO far, it was only shown to Factcheck.org, a 'friendly' source.

Yet in the press room Gibbs whines that they are doing all they can. He lies about already releasing the 'birth certificate' when in fact COLB is 'certification of live birth' and a copy of birth records, not the original filing from 1961.

So yes, Obama camp is *NOT* trying to make this a 'case closed' situation. They *like* keeping it open.

Anonymous said...

"At this point I'm convinced that the reason they're not releasing the real birth certificate is precisely to fan the flames and make conservatives look rabid and crazy."

The "birther" movement is doing a darned good job of looking rabid and crazy on their own. The Obama camp is simply not reaching out to save them from themselves. Can you blame them?